tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post1394998320072363948..comments2024-03-10T06:42:57.798-07:00Comments on Raptormaniacs: Singing "Raptors"Albertonykushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00345306530772709064noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-74679462177304800322016-06-21T17:50:10.470-07:002016-06-21T17:50:10.470-07:00Air sacs primarily function in respiration. They a...<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_sacs" rel="nofollow">Air sacs</a> primarily function in respiration. They are also used for thermoregulation.Albertonykushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00345306530772709064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-46234979245436494472016-06-21T16:51:21.397-07:002016-06-21T16:51:21.397-07:00In the whatchacallit-saurus that DID have the clav...In the whatchacallit-saurus that DID have the clavicular air sac, what purpose could it have if not to support vocalization of some kind? Please excuse my ignorance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-52249897397977915032012-06-01T04:48:02.997-07:002012-06-01T04:48:02.997-07:00Hissing is just forceful blowing of air, so it doe...Hissing is just forceful blowing of air, so it doesn't require a specialized organ for vocalization.Albertonykushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00345306530772709064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-82989566052372542112012-05-31T18:30:25.057-07:002012-05-31T18:30:25.057-07:00But wouldn't hissing also be considered vocal?...But wouldn't hissing also be considered vocal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-31157280518423083692011-12-07T23:37:50.017-08:002011-12-07T23:37:50.017-08:00Yes, I think howling is generally vocal.
Haha! Se...Yes, I think howling is generally vocal.<br /><br />Haha! See the addendum though. ;)Albertonykushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00345306530772709064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-68538738713955242072011-12-07T20:20:40.397-08:002011-12-07T20:20:40.397-08:00Is howling a vocal sound?
Oh, and it turns out T....Is howling a vocal sound?<br /><br />Oh, and it turns out T.rex WAS a silent killer. >:DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-83891955186373314512011-10-12T04:27:03.963-07:002011-10-12T04:27:03.963-07:00I now love Naish more than I did before (and that&...I now love Naish more than I did before (and that's saying something)!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-32585852715415551452011-03-10T04:27:30.580-08:002011-03-10T04:27:30.580-08:00OMG OMG OMG Dr. Darren Naish commented on my blog!...OMG OMG OMG Dr. Darren Naish commented on my blog!!1!!!1!!1!1!eleventyone!1! <br /><br />Thanks for the info! I'll be sure to make an addendum.Albertonykushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00345306530772709064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-56896622275613471102011-03-10T01:30:32.931-08:002011-03-10T01:30:32.931-08:00I think there's been a mistake here, and that ...I think there's been a mistake here, and that the claims of 'no laryngeal involvement in avian vocalisation' are based on old literature. Not only do birds possess a larynx, recent work has shown that (in some species, like chickens) it is highly mobile, and that it does indeed play a role in vocalising. I'll have a chat with Phil Senter about this some time (he's the one responsible for the argument you report above).<br /><br />See...<br /><br />Homberger, D. G. 1986. The lingual apparatus of the African grey parrot <em>Psittacus erithacus</em>Linné (Aves: Psittacidae): description and theoretical mechanical analysis. <em>Ornithological Monographs</em> 39, 1-233.<br /><br />- . 1999. The avian tongue and larynx: multiple functions in nutrition and vocalization. In Adams, N. & Slotow, R. (eds) <em>Proceedings of the 22nd International Ornithological Congress,University of Natal, Durban, South Africa</em>. BirdLife (Johannesburg), pp. 94-113.<br /><br />And some of this was covered on Tet Zoo (though I can't provide a link right now, as the whole of ScienceBlogs is currently inaccessible to me).Darren Naishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00324870234525004643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-69682820908456649812011-03-02T14:38:45.367-08:002011-03-02T14:38:45.367-08:00they could still beat-box though, right?they could still beat-box though, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-52404506883921871462011-03-01T22:10:04.242-08:002011-03-01T22:10:04.242-08:00That appears to be the case. (Ornithothoracines co...That appears to be the case. (Ornithothoracines could and can, but even basal avialians lack evidence for a clavicular air sac.)Albertonykushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00345306530772709064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-787217111450065682011-03-01T19:41:54.884-08:002011-03-01T19:41:54.884-08:00so did dinosaurs not make vocal sounds at all?so did dinosaurs not make vocal sounds at all?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-46728325459544620872011-02-28T19:10:06.507-08:002011-02-28T19:10:06.507-08:00Having a clavicular air sac doesn't mean you h...Having a clavicular air sac doesn't mean you have a syrinx. There's no reason to assume that Aerosteon also convergently evolved a syrinx along with its clavicular air sac.Albertonykushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00345306530772709064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8893026474426881196.post-39450624396399405772011-02-28T19:04:29.997-08:002011-02-28T19:04:29.997-08:00Now, I'm a bit confused here. If Aerosteon had...Now, I'm a bit confused here. If Aerosteon had a clavicular air sac, albeit convergently, shouldn't it also be able to vocalize in a similar manner as modern birds?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com